Debater
Foaled 2020 · by No Nay Never out of Now You're Talking (Zoffany)
Form 4556/6709 (latest on the right) · Flat · ran 13 Jun 22 – 12 Oct 23, last for Hugo Palmer · current OR 54
| Date | Course & race | Trip | Going | Pos | OR | Jockey |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 12 Oct 23 | AyrVirgin Bet Every Saturday Money Back Handicap · Class 6 · 7f50y · Heavy | 7f50y | Heavy | 9/10 | 54 | Ben Curtis |
| 4 Sep 23 | WindsorCAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap · Class 6 · 6f12y · Good To Firm | 6f12y | Good To Firm | 12/13 | 57 | Oisin Murphy |
| 19 Jun 23 | Carlisleracingtv.com Fillies' Handicap · Class 5 · 6f195y · Good To Soft | 6f195y | Good To Soft | 7/8 | 61 | Joe Fanning |
| 15 May 23 | Wolverhampton (AW)Racing Welfare - Mental Health Awareness Week Handicap · Class 5 · 6f20y · Standard | 6f20y | Standard | 6/10 | 64 | Harry Davies |
| 21 Oct 22 | Newcastle (AW)talkSPORT Download The App Nursery · Class 6 · 5f · Standard To Slow | 5f | Standard To Slow | 6/8 | 67 | Andrew Mullen |
| 15 Sep 22 | YarmouthBritish EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (GBB Race) (Div 1) · Class 4 · 6f3y · Good | 6f3y | Good | 5/10 | – | Rossa Ryan |
| 6 Jul 22 | Kempton (AW)Unibet/British Stallion Studs EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (GBB Race) · Class 4 · 6f · Standard To Slow | 6f | Standard To Slow | 5/9 | – | Harry Davies |
| 13 Jun 22 | NottinghamEBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (GBB Race) · Class 5 · 6f18y · Good To Firm | 6f18y | Good To Firm | 4/9 | – | Ross Coakley |
No Nay Never as a stallion
In our records: 775 runners, 402 winners (52%), 72 black-type winners including 11 at the top level, 75 more placed in black type. Runners foaled 2016–2024.
On the track himself: 6 runs, 4 wins — Group 1 winner (Darley Prix Morny (2yo Colts & Fillies) (Turf)).
His best
Little Big Bear Group 1 OR 124 · Ten Sovereigns Group 1 OR 122 · Alcohol Free Group 1 OR 119 · Never So Brave Group 1 OR 117 · True Love Group 1 OR 116 · Mission Central Group 1 OR 115
The dam: Now You're Talking by Zoffany
She ran 14 times and won 1, best OR 106 — placed in black type. Dam of 1 winner from 1 other runner.
Aktoria Listed out of the 2nd dam, by Canford Cliffs
Galaktea bt out of the 2nd dam, by Statue Of Liberty
The dam’s other foals
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Best |
|---|---|---|---|
| Biographer (GB) 2021 gelding · by Oasis Dream | 13 | 1 | OR 75 |
Debater in the sale ring
| Sale | Result | Bought by | Sold by |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2021 Tattersalls October, Book 1Lot 180 · as a yearling | 150,000gnsPeter & Ross Doyle Bloodstock | Peter & Ross Doyle Bloodstock | Highclere Stud |
| 2023 Tattersalls December MaresLot 1437 · as a broodmare | 18,000gnsAwbeg Stud | Awbeg Stud | Highclere Stud |
The family at the sales — out of the same dam
| Foal | Sale | Result |
|---|---|---|
| 2025 filly by Shaquille | 2026 Tattersalls SomervilleLot 55 · yearling | 22,000gnsDean Ivory Racing |
| 2024 filly by St Mark's Basilica | 2025 Tattersalls October, Book 3Lot 1545 · yearling | Withdrawn |
| 2022 filly by Lope de Vega | 2025 Tattersalls Online FebruaryLot 74 · in training | 13,500gnsShoreham Stud |
| Biographer2021 colt by Oasis Dream | 2024 Tattersalls FebruaryLot 115 · in training | 17,000gnsD Easterby |
| 2022 filly by Lope de Vega | 2023 Tattersalls October, Book 1Lot 531 · yearling | Withdrawn |
| Biographer2021 colt by Oasis Dream | 2022 Tattersalls October, Book 1Lot 97 · yearling | Withdrawn |
From our racing database: every British and Irish result since 2005, and every Goffs, Tattersalls, Tattersalls Ireland and Arqana sale 2005 – 2026. Linked by the seller — always check the passport matches.