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Foaled 2006 · by Where Or When out of Tup Tim (Emperor Jones)
Form 00/80/660/149 (latest on the right) · Flat · ran 20 Jun 08 – 22 Jan 12, last for Rod Millman · current OR 51
| Date | Course & race | Trip | Going | Pos | OR | Jockey |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 22 Jan 12 | Kempton (AW)32 Free At 32Red.com Handicap · Class 6 · 1m4f · Standard | 1m4f | Standard | 9/14 | 51 | James Millman |
| 15 Jan 12 | Kempton (AW)Book Kempton Tickets On 0844 579 3008 Handicap · Class 6 · 1m3f · Standard | 1m3f | Standard | 4/13 | 51 | James Millman |
| 4 Jan 12 | Kempton (AW)Betdaq Multiples Handicap · Class 6 · 1m4f · Standard | 1m4f | Standard | 1/13 | 47 | James Millman |
| 7 Dec 11 | Kempton (AW)Is Go Burn Grey Outpaced Handicap · Class 6 · 1m4f · Standard | 1m4f | Standard | 10/12 | 50 | James Millman |
| 24 Nov 11 | Kempton (AW)Download The Blue Square Bet App Handicap (Div 2) · Class 6 · 1m4f · Standard | 1m4f | Standard | 6/10 | 52 | James Millman |
| 23 Mar 11 | Kempton (AW)Free Entry For Betdaq Members Handicap (Div 2) · Class 6 · 1m2f · Standard | 1m2f | Standard | 6/11 | 52 | James Millman |
| 22 Jun 09 | ChepstowChepstow Racecourse Wine Club at wineaux.co.uk Fillies' Handicap · Class 5 · 1m14y · Good | 1m14y | Good | 13/15 | 62 | Saleem Golam |
| 5 May 09 | ChepstowBet365.com Handicap · Class 6 · 6f · Good To Firm | 6f | Good To Firm | 8/15 | 62 | Jim Crowley |
| 6 Oct 08 | WindsorE.B.F. Maiden Stakes · Class 4 · 1m67y · Good To Soft | 1m67y | Good To Soft | 10/14 | 62 | Steve Carson |
| 10 Jul 08 | FolkestoneEBF Ladbrokes Loyalty Card Median Auction Mdn Fillies' Stks · Class 5 · 7f · Soft | 7f | Soft | 11/11 | 62 | Tolley Dean |
| 20 Jun 08 | GoodwoodThe Inchcape Renault Master Maiden Auction Fillies' Stakes · Class 4 · 6f · Good To Firm | 6f | Good To Firm | 6/10 | 62 | Saleem Golam |
Where Or When as a stallion
In our records: 129 runners, 50 winners (39%), 3 black-type winners, 2 more placed in black type. Runners foaled 2005–2020.
His best
Melodic Rendezvous Grade 2 OR 163 · Myplacelater Listed OR 110 · Trip To Glory Listed · Now Where Or When bt OR 135 · Greyfriars Drummer OR 129 · Aviewtosea OR 121
The dam: Tup Tim by Emperor Jones
No runs on our British and Irish records (unraced, or raced abroad). Dam of 2 winners from 2 other runners.
The dam’s other foals
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Best |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ice Tres (GB) 2009 mare · by Iceman | 42 | 3 | OR 104 |
| Afram Blue (GB) 2005 gelding · by Fraam | 56 | 5 | OR 92 |
Now in the sale ring
| Sale | Result | Bought by | Sold by |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2007 Tattersalls October, Book 3Lot 1557 · as a yearling | Bought back (10,000gns) | – | Kirtlington Stud |
The family at the sales — out of the same dam
| Foal | Sale | Result |
|---|---|---|
| 2007 gelding by Avonbridge | 2012 Arqana Summer SaleLot 165 · in training | €2,500LE BOSQUET BS |
| Afram Blue2005 gelding by Fraam | 2008 Tattersalls Autumn HITLot 1463 · in training | 13,000gnsFive Star Bloodstock |
| Afram Blue2005 colt by Fraam | 2006 Tattersalls October, Book 2Lot 1721 · yearling | 18,000gnsA Skiffington |
From our racing database: every British and Irish result since 2005, and every Goffs, Tattersalls, Tattersalls Ireland and Arqana sale 2005 – 2026. Linked by the seller — always check the passport matches.