Theresnoneedfordat
Foaled 2009 · by Holy Roman Emperor out of Manuscript (Machiavellian)
Form 0003331112 (latest on the right) · Flat · ran 7 Aug 11 – 27 Sep 12, last for Stuart Williams · current OR 71
| Date | Course & race | Trip | Going | Pos | OR | Jockey |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 27 Sep 12 | Wolverhampton (AW)32Red.com Handicap · Class 5 · 5f216y · Standard | 5f216y | Standard | 2/12 | 71 | William Carson |
| 22 Sep 12 | Wolverhampton (AW)32Red.com Handicap (Div 1) · Class 5 · 5f216y · Standard To Fast | 5f216y | Standard To Fast | 1/9 | 71 | Adam Kirby |
| 14 Sep 12 | Wolverhampton (AW)32Red Handicap · Class 5 · 5f216y · Standard To Fast | 5f216y | Standard To Fast | 1/9 | 66 | Pat Cosgrave |
| 31 Aug 12 | Wolverhampton (AW)Ladbrokes Mobile Handicap · Class 6 · 5f216y · Standard | 5f216y | Standard | 1/11 | 60 | William Carson |
| 23 Aug 12 | FolkestoneWW Electrical Handicap · Class 6 · 6f · Good To Firm | 6f | Good To Firm | 3/6 | 60 | William Carson |
| 21 Aug 12 | YarmouthPleasurewood Hills Maiden Handicap · Class 5 · 6f3y · Good To Firm | 6f3y | Good To Firm | 3/10 | 60 | William Carson |
| 8 Aug 12 | Yarmouth3 Sun Handicap · Class 6 · 5f43y · Good | 5f43y | Good | 3/6 | 60 | Ashley Morgan |
| 13 Jul 12 | ChesterIrvings Solicitors Handicap · Class 5 · 7f2y · Good To Soft | 7f2y | Good To Soft | 12/12 | 64 | Saleem Golam |
| 29 Jun 12 | ChesterTrafford Centre Fashion Flutter Handicap · Class 5 · 7f122y · Good | 7f122y | Good | 17/17 | 69 | Martin Harley |
| 5 Jun 12 | LeicesterDiamond Jubilee Handicap · Class 4 · 7f9y · Good To Soft | 7f9y | Good To Soft | 10/13 | 71 | William Carson |
| 10 Oct 11 | SalisburyBathwick Tyres Maiden Auction Stakes (Div 2) · Class 5 · 6f212y · Good | 6f212y | Good | 9/10 | – | Kieren Fallon |
| 26 Aug 11 | BrightonToteswinger More Ways To Win Maiden Auction Stakes · Class 5 · 5f213y · Soft | 5f213y | Soft | 3/7 | – | Seb Sanders |
Holy Roman Emperor as a stallion
In our records: 1,083 runners, 576 winners (53%), 80 black-type winners including 14 at the top level, 74 more placed in black type. Runners foaled 2008–2024.
On the track himself: 7 runs, 4 wins — Group 1 winner (Independent Waterford Wedgwood Phoenix Stakes (Entire Colts & Fillies)).
His best
Designs On Rome Group 1 OR 128 · Beauty Only Group 1 OR 127 · Homecoming Queen Group 1 OR 120 · Romanised Group 1 OR 119 · Rich Tapestry Group 1 OR 117 · Morandi Group 1 OR 116
The dam: Manuscript by Machiavellian
No runs on our British and Irish records (unraced, or raced abroad). Dam of 0 winners from 2 other runners.
The dam’s other foals
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Best |
|---|---|---|---|
| Timeless Whisper (IRE) 2007 filly · by Footstepsinthesand | 9 | 0 | OR 78 |
| Kitchi (IRE) 2006 filly · by Key Of Luck | 3 | 0 | – |
Theresnoneedfordat in the sale ring
| Sale | Result | Bought by | Sold by |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 Tattersalls October, Book 2Lot 1303 · as a yearling | 8,000gnsRobert Morris | Robert Morris | Parkway Farm, Ireland |
The family at the sales — out of the same dam
| Foal | Sale | Result |
|---|---|---|
| Timeless Whisper2007 filly by Footstepsinthesand | 2011 Goffs November Mare SaleLot 1106 · in training | €1,500K Bolger |
| 2008 filly by Peintre Celebre | 2009 Goffs OrbyLot 621 · yearling | €8,000Marco Bozzi |
| Timeless Whisper2007 filly by Footstepsinthesand | 2009 Goffs HIT SaleLot 168 · in training | €30,000Js Bolger |
| Timeless Whisper2007 filly by Footstepsinthesand | 2008 Goffs Sportsman'sLot 688 · yearling | Bought back |
| Kitchi2006 filly by Key of Luck | 2007 Goffs MillionLot 111 · yearling | €60,000Church Farm Bloodstock |
From our racing database: every British and Irish result since 2005, and every Goffs, Tattersalls, Tattersalls Ireland and Arqana sale 2005 – 2026. Linked by the seller — always check the passport matches.