Where's The Line
Foaled 2011 · by Where Or When out of Born To Win (Torus)
Form 7 (latest on the right) · NH Flat · ran 22 Oct 16 – 22 Oct 16, last for Denis W Cullen
| Date | Course & race | Trip | Going | Pos | OR | Jockey |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 22 Oct 16 | PunchestownCash Out With Betdaq Flat Race · 2m · Good To Yielding | 2m | Good To Yielding | 7/7 | – | Ms L O'Neill |
Where Or When as a stallion
In our records: 129 runners, 50 winners (39%), 3 black-type winners, 2 more placed in black type. Runners foaled 2005–2020.
His best
Melodic Rendezvous Grade 2 OR 163 · Myplacelater Listed OR 110 · Trip To Glory Listed · Now Where Or When bt OR 135 · Greyfriars Drummer OR 129 · Aviewtosea OR 121
The dam: Born To Win by Torus
No runs on our British and Irish records (unraced, or raced abroad). Dam of 1 winner from 8 other runners.
The dam’s other foals
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Best |
|---|---|---|---|
| Rachel's Surprise (IRE) 2013 mare · by Oscar | 4 | 0 | OR 83 |
| Born To Succeed (IRE) 2010 gelding · by Robin Des Pres | 6 | 0 | OR 102 |
| Better Deal (IRE) 2006 gelding · by Luso | 3 | 0 | – |
| Bawn Reagh (IRE) 2005 gelding · by Alderbrook | 1 | 0 | – |
| Better Times (IRE) 2004 gelding · by Lord Americo | 10 | 3 | OR 120 |
| Born Strong (IRE) 2002 gelding · by Rudimentary | 4 | 0 | – |
| Winding Brook (IRE) 2001 gelding · by Alderbrook | 2 | 0 | – |
| Artic Heir (IRE) 2000 gelding · by Arctic Lord | 9 | 0 | – |
The family at the sales — out of the same dam
| Foal | Sale | Result |
|---|---|---|
| 2008 mare by Kris Kin | 2016 Tattersalls Ireland Winter Flat and National HuntLot 304 · broodmare | €6,200Corecannon House |
| Born To Succeed2010 gelding by Robin des Pres | 2013 Goffs Land Rover SaleLot 407 · store | Bought back |
| Born To Succeed2010 colt by Robin Des Pres | 2011 Tattersalls Ireland November National HuntLot 338 · store | Not sold |
| Bawn Reagh2005 gelding by Alderbrook | 2011 Goffs Punchestown Festival SaleLot 13 · in training | Not sold |
| Bawn Reagh2005 gelding by Alderbrook | 2011 Goffs UK Spring SaleLot 311 · in training | £18,000Tom Malone/lucinda Russell |
| Bawn Reagh2005 gelding by Alderbrook | 2008 Goffs Land Rover & June NH SaleLot 452 · store | Bought back |
From our racing database: every British and Irish result since 2005, and every Goffs, Tattersalls, Tattersalls Ireland and Arqana sale 2005 – 2026. Linked by the seller — always check the passport matches.